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Pierre Petit · 10-25-2008, 07:50 AM

Is the 5d mkII for sale already in japan? I would not be surprised if a firmware hack would allow for 24fps eventually.

Pierre Petit · 10-25-2008, 07:58 AM

Low light is nothing short of amazing!

joe 1008 · 10-25-2008, 01:03 PM

Found a color corrected version on a 24p timeline. Some motion stutter but not THAT much. I ask myself if a more sophisticated workaround for 30p to 24p conversion would work fine...

ttp://vimeo.com/2061359

ESTEBEVERDE · 10-25-2008, 01:09 PM

http://vimeo.com/2061359

Matthew Bennett · 10-25-2008, 02:16 PM

I was up at the Canon head offices here in Toronto shooting an industrial, yesterday... for the photocopier division.

I was all excited about the possibility of seeing the mark2 they had there, so the photocopy rep took me up to see the camera rep.. but the 5d was out being tested by the photojournalists from the Toronto Sun (bastards), and then of course the rep told me that I wouldn't be able to shoot anything with the camera even if he did have it (bastards)

So, how do these guys get to go leisurely shoot all this stuff and then post it at will.... boggles me! (bastards)
I'm just showing my envy here of course...

ESTEBEVERDE · 10-25-2008, 06:23 PM

Hopefully we will all be one of those lucky bastards soon enough.

Lee Wilson · 10-26-2008, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe 1008

Found a color corrected version on a 24p timeline. Some motion stutter but not THAT much. I ask myself if a more sophisticated workaround for 30p to 24p conversion would work fine...

ttp://vimeo.com/2061359

I just re-timed a little chunck of that footage to 25p (for us in PAL land) and it looks great, no weirdness, just normal 25fps.

I didn't simply play the 30p back at 25p - but used After Effects to turn 2 seconds of NTSC/30p into 2 seconds of PAL/25p.

Worked surprisingly well, better than I thought.

http://www.vimeo.com/2069928

joe 1008 · 10-26-2008, 06:48 AM

Hi Lee!

You did post the wrong link, it leads to the original footage. This is the right one:

http://www.vimeo.com/2069928

At first sight it looks perfekt. But watching the legs of the man leaving the frame of the first shot you can see an odd movement, his left leg is literally jumping out of the frame. The same happens in the second shot, when the last girl of the group of three enters the frame. The right girl of that group also makes an odd movement when her right leg is passing along her left leg.

As I understand it, it is difficult for interpolation software to interpretate objects that enter or leave the frame or that get hidden by other objects inside the frame. Some programs allow you to mask such objects (like Twixtor) to "explain" to the software, where they come from, where they are and where they go to. But doing so in every situation would suppose a heck of additional work, I suppose.

Said this I must add that, in this footage at least, these are minor flaws I could live with. And thanks a lot to you, Lee, that you postet this example, I was waiting a long time for something like this and I hope more converted footage will follow because it might become a very important workaround with the 5D.

kubalsky · 10-26-2008, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre Petit

Is the 5d mkII for sale already in japan? I would not be surprised if a firmware hack would allow for 24fps eventually.

I'm told by Yodabashi Camera Sales staff the Canon 5d mkII will be available here in Japan towards the end of November. Posters are up everywhere in stores already.
Cant wait.

dcloud · 10-26-2008, 09:16 AM

whats causing the stair step effect? not in the video, but in general

10-25-2008, 07:50 AM	#11
Pierre Petit Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: montreal Posts: 288	Is the 5d mkII for sale already in japan? I would not be surprised if a firmware hack would allow for 24fps eventually. __________________ matahd.com still photo gallery Vimeo

10-25-2008, 07:58 AM	#12
Pierre Petit Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: montreal Posts: 288	Low light is nothing short of amazing! __________________ matahd.com still photo gallery Vimeo

10-25-2008, 02:16 PM	#15
Matthew Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 718	I was up at the Canon head offices here in Toronto shooting an industrial, yesterday... for the photocopier division. I was all excited about the possibility of seeing the mark2 they had there, so the photocopy rep took me up to see the camera rep.. but the 5d was out being tested by the photojournalists from the Toronto Sun (bastards), and then of course the rep told me that I wouldn't be able to shoot anything with the camera even if he did have it (bastards) So, how do these guys get to go leisurely shoot all this stuff and then post it at will.... boggles me! (bastards) I'm just showing my envy here of course... __________________ Working with RED, Sony EX3, Andromeda DVX, Canon 5D MarkII, Nikon D90, Pentax K20D, Canon XTI. Developing. www.MatthewBennettPictures.com Reel on Vimeo: reel

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10-25-2008, 01:03 PM	#13
joe 1008 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Barcelona Posts: 655	Found a color corrected version on a 24p timeline. Some motion stutter but not THAT much. I ask myself if a more sophisticated workaround for 30p to 24p conversion would work fine... ttp://vimeo.com/2061359

10-25-2008, 01:09 PM	#14
ESTEBEVERDE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,351	http://vimeo.com/2061359

10-25-2008, 06:23 PM	#16
ESTEBEVERDE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,351	Hopefully we will all be one of those lucky bastards soon enough.

10-26-2008, 06:48 AM	#18
joe 1008 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Barcelona Posts: 655	Hi Lee! You did post the wrong link, it leads to the original footage. This is the right one: http://www.vimeo.com/2069928 At first sight it looks perfekt. But watching the legs of the man leaving the frame of the first shot you can see an odd movement, his left leg is literally jumping out of the frame. The same happens in the second shot, when the last girl of the group of three enters the frame. The right girl of that group also makes an odd movement when her right leg is passing along her left leg. As I understand it, it is difficult for interpolation software to interpretate objects that enter or leave the frame or that get hidden by other objects inside the frame. Some programs allow you to mask such objects (like Twixtor) to "explain" to the software, where they come from, where they are and where they go to. But doing so in every situation would suppose a heck of additional work, I suppose. Said this I must add that, in this footage at least, these are minor flaws I could live with. And thanks a lot to you, Lee, that you postet this example, I was waiting a long time for something like this and I hope more converted footage will follow because it might become a very important workaround with the 5D.

10-26-2008, 09:16 AM	#20
dcloud Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 891	whats causing the stair step effect? not in the video, but in general