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#71
ProLost
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11-16-2009, 01:43 AM
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I think you're right. It's the only kink in an otherwise perfect article. I just linked to it on Twitter and have seen about fifty retweets.
Barry, I would humbly suggest removing the rolling shutter reference. The wagon wheel example is a better on-ramp into the discussion. -Stu |
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#72
yoclay
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11-16-2009, 04:57 AM
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How's this for moiré/aliasing?
http://www.vimeo.com/7590690 see my post here about it: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...63#post1813563 |
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#73
joe 1008
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11-16-2009, 05:41 AM
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Quote:
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#74
divergent
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11-16-2009, 01:21 PM
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from the article:
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#75
Barry_Green
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11-16-2009, 02:10 PM
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I agree. 24fps is clearly not able to accurately resolve motion as well as 60fps, and the reason is the same -- lower sampling accuracy. 24 is less than 60, and 60 samples result in much more accurate motion rendition.
BUT -- we (the moviemaking/moviewatching public) LIKE the look of 24fps (in most things; it can get headache-inducing if movement isn't controlled). I don't think anyone actually likes the wagon wheel effect, but we put up with it for the rest of the benefits. The higher the sampling accuracy, the more accurate the representation of the thing being sampled. But in film, that's pretty much what we don't want -- we like the "surreal" or "larger than life" or "dream state" look of 24fps motion, instead of the "hyper-reality" look of 60fps. The DSLRs certainly use aliasing to "punch above their weight class", giving images that, in the right circumstances, look like they came from far more expensive cameras. Without the aliasing, they'd never create objectionable image artifacts, but they'd also be substantially lower "sharpness".* It is a tradeoff that you need to know you're making when you get into the game. The aliased DSLR look is sometimes incredible, and sometimes it can cause distracting or even shot-ruining artifacts. But at the price point, I think it's probably the right compromise, as long as people know what the compromise is, know how it manifests itself, and are on the lookout for it. *the "resolution" would stay exactly the same without the aliasing; aliasing isn't resolution, it's an artifact. What would disappear is the "false sharpness". Which is what gives the DSLRs their "punch". |
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